tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7675600882597316438.post2613493021297904837..comments2023-10-26T06:29:39.824-07:00Comments on The Magnes Zionist: The Old/New Clash of CivilizationsJerry Haberhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15173892714754718716noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7675600882597316438.post-81873469161050178082011-08-04T10:34:51.892-07:002011-08-04T10:34:51.892-07:00Benjamin:
It’s precisely this kind ‘guilt by asso...Benjamin:<br /><br />It’s precisely this kind ‘guilt by association’ that’s lead to the emergence and rise of Islamophobia in the US and Europe.<br /><br />Maybe you’ll approve if I assume the next ponzi scheme will be committed by a Jew? After all, Bernie Madow was Jewish, was he not?<br /><br />It’s fallacious thinking and deeply unhelpful.Gerthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07752117708821629614noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7675600882597316438.post-16708911826606488322011-08-03T14:13:21.195-07:002011-08-03T14:13:21.195-07:00Lawrence, I am going to write a post about the soc...Lawrence, I am going to write a post about the social justice protests when I submerge from the work that has piled up from my day job. I am posting on the average of once a week now; expect something in the next two days.<br /><br />Oy, I have a public?<br /><br />By the way, I don't consider myself a liberal Zionist. I am a liberal and a cultural Zionist. <br /><br />But liberal Zionists generally think that Israel's great mistake was the occupation of the territories, whereas I think its great mistake was coming into existence in 1948 the way that it did.Jerry Haberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15173892714754718716noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7675600882597316438.post-22799821334635485332011-08-03T10:50:36.740-07:002011-08-03T10:50:36.740-07:00i find it interesting that as a "liberal zion...i find it interesting that as a "liberal zionist" it doesnt interest you to comment on 200,000 people on the streets throughout israel and 85% support for social justice (tzedek chevrati) and a welfare state (medina revacha) a historical movement which as yossi sarid writes is a revival of the ideas of katznelson and labor zionism. Seems liberal zionism begins and ends with "ha matzav" in your viewLawrence Weinmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09432369616939155156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7675600882597316438.post-64038689137962008682011-07-30T08:45:27.477-07:002011-07-30T08:45:27.477-07:00Excellent. Best piece I've read on the situati...Excellent. Best piece I've read on the situation by a long shot. I'll be reprinting this very shortly.Gerthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07752117708821629614noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7675600882597316438.post-17056024845220234902011-07-27T20:35:35.906-07:002011-07-27T20:35:35.906-07:00Thanks for that. It was refreshing. One criticism ...Thanks for that. It was refreshing. One criticism I would have is your named choice of 3rd "outer" circle ideologue. Pamela Geller is noisy but self-defeating. Someday she will forget to breathe.<br />But Geert Wilders[for example] is going from strength to strength, raising the rhetorical temperature & making it more likely that volatile elements will boil over. <br />And he achieviing influence beyond his borders. <br />Cheers dz alexanderdizzyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11245804855325027343noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7675600882597316438.post-53168616735742498932011-07-26T16:03:27.055-07:002011-07-26T16:03:27.055-07:00Excellent post Jerry.Excellent post Jerry.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7675600882597316438.post-89784019834415656642011-07-26T08:07:11.865-07:002011-07-26T08:07:11.865-07:00A very intersting blog indeed Mr. Haber. Thank you...A very intersting blog indeed Mr. Haber. Thank you, I very much enjoy your reading what you write.Hassan Ihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16947874715500277098noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7675600882597316438.post-73889838375724601792011-07-26T03:26:01.614-07:002011-07-26T03:26:01.614-07:00Why was it nauseating to think that Al-Qaeda/Islam...Why was it nauseating to think that Al-Qaeda/Islamists might have perpetrated the massacre? I'm not saying it was right to immediately jump onto the bandwagon of assuming all acts of terrorism are the work of Islamists, but there have been people and groups arrested among such people in Europe.<br /><br />As for the 'clash of civilizations', I've always thought the term was a misnomer in many cases. There's practically no 'civilization' that the tolerant and/or liberals oppose, at least in the practical sense. People like Breivik never really struck me as representing a society, but rather, a form of both nihilism and echo chambers of self-justification.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com