tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7675600882597316438.post7026148624472858583..comments2023-10-26T06:29:39.824-07:00Comments on The Magnes Zionist: Adam Kirsch’s Fantasia on the Impact of the “Israel Lobby”Jerry Haberhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15173892714754718716noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7675600882597316438.post-8389920476507264662012-02-17T22:38:54.620-08:002012-02-17T22:38:54.620-08:00The Africa Lobby caused the ill-fated “Black Hawk ...The Africa Lobby caused the ill-fated “Black Hawk Down” invasion of Somalia – it wouldn’t have happened (including all the casualties) without the strong influence of a pro-Africa network here. But not everyone in the network is black (there, I said it); some are white, though they are all motivated by an affinity to Africa or Africans and a desire that America pursue African interests regardless of whether America shares those interests (it doesn’t). <br /><br />And while many “pro-Africa” lobbyists are whites, many others are black, and being African American naturally promotes dual loyalty to America and Africa (see, analogously, pp. 147-49 of The Israel Lobby for the identical point about being Jewish). And the pro-Africa network is powerful, as evidenced by the celebrities who pushed us into South Africa, including Jennifer Lopez whose husband, take note, is black (again, see the Israel Lobby on why Howard Dean is in it). <br /><br />But I’m not saying anything racist, because I deny racism, and because there are whites in the Africa Lobby. And I’m not saying they used illegitimate means to push America to war and cause young Americans to die for a cause they knew wasn’t in American interests – it turns out, doing this particular evil is legal on the books, and I concede that. So why the fuss??jhamnesty1https://www.blogger.com/profile/08816415440968551150noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7675600882597316438.post-72227971022762582862012-01-24T13:09:56.554-08:002012-01-24T13:09:56.554-08:00Gee wiz, the "Israel Lobby" got a good r...Gee wiz, the "Israel Lobby" got a good reception from Tony Judt, Juan Cole, Joseph Massad, Michael Scheur, and Zbigniew Brzezinski. Really? What unbiased examples you used to uphold your contention.Bella Centerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17436386007778176982noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7675600882597316438.post-48048952463252595652012-01-22T16:35:31.240-08:002012-01-22T16:35:31.240-08:00An interesting question is what sort of Israel Lob...An interesting question is what sort of Israel Lobby is at work in the EU countries. What has kept them quiescent for so many years? What recent events account for recent signs of restiveness?<br /><br />I regard as supremely important any indication that the EU or UN or anyone else (e.g, US, but I'm not waiting on that one) will begin to talk about enforcing international law of occupation by ACTION instead of by WORDS ALONE (as did UNSC-465 (1980) which called -- without teeth -- for removal of all the 1980 settlers and dismantlement of all the 1980 settlements).<br /><br />Words alone have never had the slightest effect on Israel.<br /><br />I'm not interested in rolling Israel back to 1900, just to 1966. Why does Israel insist on treating such a prospect as an ultimate calamity?pabelmonthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02455552052993621134noreply@blogger.com