tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7675600882597316438.post7637308055418941245..comments2023-10-26T06:29:39.824-07:00Comments on The Magnes Zionist: A Must-Read Analysis of American Policy in the Middle EastJerry Haberhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15173892714754718716noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7675600882597316438.post-34999978935967970222012-03-29T04:01:27.540-07:002012-03-29T04:01:27.540-07:00The political direction of Israel's settlers i...The political direction of Israel's settlers is to prevent peace -- they have their land and do not want an agreement that gives any of it away.<br />so that keep our country people relation happy so that internal disputes not occurred and aware legal rule <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSrbtf-g7c0" title="גירושין" rel="nofollow">גירושין</a>joymohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02624754715036635069noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7675600882597316438.post-46460504870309225932010-09-30T02:58:15.754-07:002010-09-30T02:58:15.754-07:00That was one of the most acute analyses of the ME ...That was one of the most acute analyses of the ME situation that I have read recently.<br /><br />Thankyou.<br /><br />To put Israel into the context of the whole Middle East, and not just their land theft in Palestine and enthralment of the US puts that shitty little Levantine country into the right perspective. <br /><br />Had the US not become so enthralled with 'the only democracy in the Middle East' then we would hear a great deal less about their bad behaviour.Richard Parkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11726482358889849398noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7675600882597316438.post-2341435444257306022010-09-15T02:12:00.939-07:002010-09-15T02:12:00.939-07:00I'm glad that you like Malley and think he sho...I'm glad that you like Malley and think he should guide US foreign policy. He, along with Agha, proposed in Foreign Affairs in 2002 that Israeli Arabs should be left in their homes, but the land in the "triangle" should be moved to the new Palestinian state. He did this years before Avigdor Lieberman proposed the very same thing for which he has been called a racist and a bigot.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7675600882597316438.post-24770120441066171262010-09-01T11:27:27.665-07:002010-09-01T11:27:27.665-07:00bacci doesn't care and honestly I think it'...bacci doesn't care and honestly I think it's great that he doesn't care. <br /><br />I've never been terribly comfortable with the idea that the portion of Palestine that was cleansed of Arabs in 1948 is some sort of sacrosanct done deal, and that it was only bad when they took the show on the road after 1967.<br /><br />Repartition simply isn't going to happen and the world may as well just deal with the area between the Jordan and the Mediterranean as it is: a rather nasty little vicious ethnocracy that manages to feel sorry for itself while it beats and robs the neighbors. I somehow find the omnipresent victimism present in the Israeli discourse as being the most nauseating part of their behavior.<br /><br />The world isn't going to put up with this forever and when it is made extremely plain that the status quo isn't going to change (except incrementally pushing out the Arabs) Israel will get turned off like a spigot. It doesn't have resources, it isn't productive enough to maintain it's ridiculous army if any country even feels like continuing to sell them arms.Ed M.https://www.blogger.com/profile/14032816262433847847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7675600882597316438.post-66189812898930559902010-09-01T08:47:47.774-07:002010-09-01T08:47:47.774-07:00Eric, without prejudice to the actual status of in...Eric, without prejudice to the actual status of individual Germans there, the ethnic cleansing of the Sudetenland (and Poland) took place largely before 1949, the year the GC were enacted.<br /><br />Aaron, it's article 49, not 4. Art. 4 defines protected persons.<br /><br />Bacci40, read the ICRC commentary on paragraph 6. (http://www.icrc.org/ihl.nsf/COM/380-600056?OpenDocument)fiddlernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7675600882597316438.post-73907860555220885512010-08-31T17:42:43.888-07:002010-08-31T17:42:43.888-07:00Wasn't moving the settlers out of the Sudetenl...Wasn't moving the settlers out of the Sudetenland after the end of the <b>illegal occupation </b> by Germany legal according to the Geneva Convention? And wasn't it done with the consent of the USA and the "Quartet".Ericnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7675600882597316438.post-36200606897344606062010-08-31T17:25:57.878-07:002010-08-31T17:25:57.878-07:00aron,
guess your reading comprehension is poor
t...aron,<br /><br />guess your reading comprehension is poor<br /><br />tell me which section deals with persons choosing on their own accord to reside in occupied territory<br /><br />government transfer is exactly that...a government telling persons where to live<br /><br />there are no illegal settlementsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7675600882597316438.post-91490497701680684602010-08-29T21:21:30.937-07:002010-08-29T21:21:30.937-07:00@bacci40
You're directing pabelmont to read s...@bacci40<br /><br />You're directing pabelmont to read sections of the Geneva Conventions when evidently haven't read them yourself. Curious.<br /><br />Geneva 4, Art. 4, Para. 1:<br />"Individual or mass forcible transfers, as well as deportations of protected persons from occupied territory to the territory of the Occupying Power or to that of any other country, occupied or not, are prohibited, regardless of their motive."<br /><br />This is the relevant section prohibiting ethnic cleansing of occupied territories..<br /><br />Geneva 4, Art. 4, Para. 6:<br />"The Occupying Power shall not deport or transfer parts of its own civilian population into the territory it occupies."<br /><br />And this relates to the deliberate installation of settlers by Israel into the Occupied Palestinian Territories. The settlers are not covered by Paragraph 1 quoted above as they aren't "protected persons". Note carefully: NO MENTION is made of forcible transfer.Aaronnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7675600882597316438.post-2489222515180024392010-08-29T06:08:36.245-07:002010-08-29T06:08:36.245-07:00This is an excellent analysis of how the Middle Ea...This is an excellent analysis of how the Middle East has worked in the past and what's changed today.<br />Should be required reading for Obama's administration. as this is a useful summary of the region.<br />However,it is less helpful in moving the Israel-Palestine issue forward.<br />Their recommendations for the future didn't leave me feeling more optimistic about success for peace in Israel-Palestine.Elliotnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7675600882597316438.post-35749067870735148802010-08-29T02:27:34.202-07:002010-08-29T02:27:34.202-07:00pabelmont,
hate to tell you this, but internation...pabelmont,<br /><br />hate to tell you this, but international law says no such thing<br /><br />if it did, that would mean that international law supports ethnic cleansing.<br /><br />you might, but international law and the usa does not.<br /><br />and nice of you to have read a rather large article on the issues of the middle east and condense it down to: the settlers are evil.<br /><br />i suggest you read the section in the geneva convention regarding the settlement of occupied territory. the only time that it becomes illegal is when populations are forced to move.<br /><br />as for your absurd statement regarding that some would be allowed to return to their formed homes....how many have been allowed to return to gaza...or will ever be?<br /><br />jews have a long history of being expelled from their homes, never to be allowed back....we aint buying that...<br /><br />as for the article itself...some of it i agree with, some of it i dont<br /><br />all i know is, there is no quick fix and israel is not the problem.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7675600882597316438.post-66411202599049094422010-08-29T00:51:45.370-07:002010-08-29T00:51:45.370-07:00As a settler and USA citizen, I wonder where pabel...As a settler and USA citizen, I wonder where pabelmont gets his legal opinion that I must be removed from the territories.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7675600882597316438.post-22612673281135124192010-08-28T13:40:26.948-07:002010-08-28T13:40:26.948-07:00The political direction of Israel's settlers i...The political direction of Israel's settlers is to prevent peace -- they have their land and do not want an agreement that gives any of it away.<br /><br />If (as international law requires) the settlers were to be removed from the occupied territories, their political direction would be reversed -- they would push toward an agreement that allowed some of them to return to their formed homes in the occupied territories.<br /><br />The USA should require all settlers to be removed.pabelmonthttp://123pab.comnoreply@blogger.com