Does Jewish Voice for Peace have a place at the Jewish communal table? I expect the answer to be "no" from people on the right wing of the Jewish communal spectrum; after all, some of them barely tolerate J-Street. But as an old-fashioned liberal, I am still naïve enough to believe that people who call themselves "liberal" or "progressive" will answer "yes". After all, JVP does not call for emptying Palestine of Jews, or driving them into the sea. It doesn't call for the violent destruction of the Zionist regime, or sending Jews back to their country of origin. Here is a paragraph from its mission statement:
JVP opposes anti-Jewish, anti-Muslim, and anti-Arab bigotry and oppression. JVP seeks an end to the Israeli occupation of the West Bank, Gaza Strip, and East Jerusalem; security and self-determination for Israelis and Palestinians; a just solution for Palestinian refugees based on principles established in international law; an end to violence against civilians; and peace and justice for all peoples of the Middle East
If anybody in J Street or Ameinu doesn't subscribe to the above, then they should turn in their membership cards. Where JVP differs from those organizations, aside from their tactics, is that it does not mandate any one particular political solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, i.e., how the self-determination of Israelis and Palestinians should be fulfilled, the way that liberal Zionist organizations do. Its concern is primarily for the welfare and self-determination of the Israeli and Palestinian peoples, Jews and Arabs, and not for any particular political structures. That is a broad enough tent to include many Jews and Palestinians, Zionist, not-Zionist, and anti-Zionist. This is not to say that all members of JVP are agnostic or don't have definite views on the subject. But, as I understand their mission statement, JVP doesn't take a stand as an organization on the question of three states, two-states, one-state, federation, etc. JVP recognizes that there have always been differences of opinions on these questions, within and without the respective communities.
Enter Kenneth Bob, president of Ameinu, which claims to represent "liberal" and "progressive" values. Bob banishes JVP from the Jewish communal table for its willingness to include people who are agnostic on the ultimate political solution to the century-old conflict between Jew and Arab:
That is what separates progressive Zionists from JVP. We cannot be "agnostic" about the most central issue in the conflict, the importance of a solution that includes two states for two peoples, Israel and Palestine. It is ludicrous to suggest that one can be involved in the Jewish communal discourse about the future of the Middle East without having an opinion on whether Israel should exist.
"Ludicrous?" Not "mistaken" or "misguided' but "ludicrous? Is it ludicrous for Ameinu to sit around the Jewish communal table with Zionist organizations that are not agnostic about denying the Palestinians their claims to self-determination in their homeland? No doubt Bob would claim that this denial separates Ameinu from the Zionist Organization of America – but will he call for its banishment from the Jewish communal table?
For the president of an organization that calls itself "liberal" it is not enough for JVP to state explicitly in its mission statement that Israeli Jews and Palestinian Arabs have a right to self-determination. Apparently, a Jewish organization must explicitly pledge allegiance to the particular form of Jewish self-determination adopted by the state founded in 1948 as a result of the expulsion of a majority of Palestinian's Arab inhabitants. Only that will satisfy an organization that calls itself "liberal" and "progressive". Bob elevates the steadfast commitment to the existence of State of Israel to the status of a Jewish article of faith. Maimonides famously held that Jews had to believe in the existence of God to be considered part of the Jewish community. Now belief in God has been replaced by belief in a particular political regime.
Should JVP have a place at the Jewish communal table? Let there be a litmus test for Jewish organizations, but let it be their commitment to the survival and thriving of Jewish people everywhere. Require that an organization observe rules of civility and decorum at meetings like the GA, and leave it up to JVP to decide whether a place at the Jewish communal table is worth moderating its tactics.
But is there anything more pathetic than a liberal Zionist group, often badgered by the right, attempting to exclude groups on its left like JVP? Whether it does so out of genuine conviction, or out of a desire to legitimize itself at the expense of delegitimizing others, it is a disgraceful move.
Or so thinks this old-fashioned liberal.
Thank you so much for this. I'm a very proud and active member of JVP. I've always been incredulous (in some ways)about the reaction of other organizations to JVP. We take our mission statement very seriously and it informs all of our work.
I posted on Ameinu's Facebook page & noted that whenever progressives fight among themselves, their opponents win. The most glaring example of this is of course the Spanish Civil War.
Ken Bob forgets that to the Alan Dershowitz' of the world there is no difference between Ameinu, J Street, Peace Now, or JVFP. We all stand for opposing the occupation, can't we work together?
I think you misunderstand my point regarding JVP. I didn't call for "banishment" from the Jewish community due to their views. Rather, I suggest that it is ridiculous (literal meaning of ludicrous) to think they they can be taken seriously without having an opinion on the central issue of "two states for two people." It is THE issue around which ending the occupation hinges. Regarding the ZOA, if you follow internal Jewish communal politics you know that Ameinu is the only organization that consistently takes them on both publicly.
Jewish voice for Peace also participates in rally where the existence of Israel is denied, condemned and its eventual destruction proclaimed. JVP presence at these events give support to these sentiments.
I also wrote a response to Ken Bob's piece which takes a similar approach, if a little less caustic: http://everydayandeverynight.com/response-to-ken-bob
I am glad that Kenneth Bob took the trouble to clarify his views. He now says that when he wrote:
"It is ludicrous to suggest that one can be involved in the Jewish communal discourse about the future of the Middle East without having an opinion on whether Israel should exist"
he meant by the phrase "to be involved" someting like "to be taken seriously"
I understood it as "to have a place at the table." That's what involvement usually means.
In other words, Kenneth Bob does not want to exclude JVP. He just thinks that they will not be taken seriously. Does this meant that Ameinu doesn't take JPV seriously?
Instead of dissing JVP in public, Ameinu may take its cue from a fast-growing organization that is liberal and progressive -- an organization that significantly differs from JVP, but doesn't write opinion pieces against them.
That organization is called J-Street.
as jvp are not true liberals, for true liberals do not physically attack a gay, disabled woman who is videotaping one of their meetings....i applaud ameinu
again jerry shows that he is not a true liberal...for he stands with those who fight for regimes that have no problem taking away the rights of women, gays and any religion that is not islam
good work jerry...you will make a fine dhimmi....serving your muslim masters
"I suggest that it is ridiculous (literal meaning of ludicrous) to think they they can be taken seriously without having an opinion on the central issue of 'two states for two people.' It is THE issue around which ending the occupation hinges."
JVP does has a fundamental disagreement with Ken Bob over what THE issue around which ending the occupation hinges. Bob believes it is the issue of the two state solution - JVP believes the central issue is deeper than any specific political final status agreement.
Rather, the real issue has to do with values such as human rights, international law, equity and democracy. In the end, the specifics a final agreement should appropriately be determined by Israelis and Palestinians. As an American Jewish organization, JVP does not believe it is for American Jews to make this determination.
And to suggest we need to in order to be "taken seriously" is (pardon the expression) ludicrous.
Rabbi Brant Rosen
Co-Chair, JVP Rabbinical Council
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